Showing posts with label religious. Show all posts
Showing posts with label religious. Show all posts

Tuesday, 3 May 2016

NEW AGE HOLLYWOOD - SCARY SHIT

I just saw the movie called "The Invitation" (2015).

It is about a mother and father who grieves the loss of their son.

Each of them tries to deal with their pain in a different way.

The mother seeks unconventional help, seeing joining a cult as the answer to her grief.

The father seems to go on with his life, a desire to not be stuck in the past, he even gets a new girlfriend and abandons the house where he lived with is wife and son before tragedy befell them.

The difference between the mother and father is that the father of the deceased son actually faces his pain, and accept it for what it is and in so doing manages to move on slowly. The mother however gets a new boyfriend, but he only manages to keep her stuck in her past grief.

Thus the mother of the deceased son, refuses to go on with her life or to face her pain in a healthy way - instead she joins a cult where they tell her that everything is pretty and lovely once she leaves this material world and rejoins with her son on the other side.

The whole story ends up being a creepy story told about CULT recruitment.

The mother is led to believe that what they are doing isn't murder but releasing people from the material world to "ascend" in the spiritual dimension, by "inviting them" to a "peaceful culling" - where they are supposed to drink wine laced with poison intended to bring about a "peaceful death", as if just going to sleep in one world and waking up in another.

But the father of the child soon finds out that what these people are doing is some fucked up trick to kill them all, instead of just being invited to a dinner to catch up with his estranged wife who came back from Mexico with new weird friends.

Their plan doesn't work out to kill them with poison, and it ends up in a bloodbath, almost chainsaw massacre style and they all die violent deaths...except for the father and his new girlfriend, but when they made it alive outside of the house of horror which they were trapped in by maniacal cultists wanting to kill them for a "new world in another dimension", they see that the entire town has been recruited by this cult to join in this "culling" for a "new world", but all of them turn into horror houses filled with screams and bloodshed.

BOTTOM LINE: You will get this and see the correlation between new age bullshit, and their belief which they had in 2012 that we were all going to die in the material world and embrace our spiritual bodies in the fifth dimension for a NEW HEAVEN ON EARTH.

I don't know who the director or writer is but damn did it struck a nerve regarding the endless "harrowing" of NEW AGE BULLSHIT. 

PRETTY SHIT, WITH ALL THE GOOD INTENTIONS USUALLY SINISTER SHIT TURNING NASTY. 

This is exactly what the NEW AGE MOVEMENT is all about PERVERSION OF SPIRITUAL REALITIES AND UNDERSTANDING.







fuck the intergalactic federation of lies and their mission standing for the absolute destruction of minds 


a "zombiepocalypse" is what these retards really want

Sunday, 8 November 2015

YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM - ANOTHER PIECE OF NEW AGE BULLSHIT







Apparently part of the new age bullshit regime is brainwashing yourself into thinking:

"I AM NOT A VICTIM OF MY CIRCUMSTANCES; 
 I CHOSE THIS LIFE AS IT IS; 
 I CANNOT EFFECT ANY CHANGE; 
TO EITHER EMBETTER MYSELF 
OR THE LIFE AROUND ME"

I have to say, that I was much into this thought process as well. Since reading books about past lives and reincarnation, where you apparently choose your body, your life, the family you will grow up in to fulfill this particular life purpose you are currently in.




I am seriously doubting that belief that one cannot fight or change fate, that one cannot challenge destiny - you might as well go sit on a rock somewhere, and just let life pass you by if that was the case. I mean what do you really think "destiny" means in the strongest sense of the word?

In my personal opinion if you just happen to experience a spiritual awakening, your entire "social conditioning" wiring gets fucked up, there is a clear change of direction; your entire soul mission for this life, becomes PRO NON SCRIPTO: 


meaning As not written; as though it had not been written; as never written. 

As they say "when you wake up, it is time to die!!" - maybe not literally but maybe to be reborn into something or someone totally different as that person you planned to be when you still happily bought into the whole "mindfuck yourself into illusion upon delusion during each reincarnation that befits the social conditioning plan on this planet Earth".




To conclude: this new age agenda, is far from spiritual I would say, it perfectly lines up with the whole social agenda of Public decorum - that the masses should remain asleep, no matter the cost - even if they die and come back as someone else, the entire social dogma would remain intact upon each reincarnation period, with the main agenda being TO NEVER KICK AGAINST THE FLOW OF SOCIAL ABUSE, or you will die and be punished accordingly (laughs - fear death after you come from death and go back, and come back each time).




Being threatened by DEATH, seems to be their only way TO KEEP THE MASSES FEARFUL, ASLEEP AS WELL AS UNABLE TO PROCEED ON THEIR INTENDED SOUL GROWTH JOURNEY. 




Maybe that is the challenge of those who choose a spiritual incarnation, to FINALLY WAKE THE FUCK UP. To realize that you can effect change, and you are fully entitled to bring about change for your own inner solace/peace.






last note: the more you fuck yourself over with bullshit of the system in each incarnation, the more negative karma you build up against you!!! Karma that will either unravel in each next incarnation, the same incarnation, or perhaps all at once in final incarnation when your soul is finally ready to grow the fuck up, tired of lying to itself, and decides to be done with the games of the overall social illusion.





Friday, 19 December 2014

FAMILY MAKES ME SICK

It is a great shame that I have to write this during a Christmas season, when families are supposed to come close and actually be there for each other.

But in my life, the family who I thought would always be there for me, is simply incapable of being there for me on an emotional level at all.

Let's say due to our religious differences - them being dumb christian zealots who cannot go a day without NOT thinking for themselves, and me being the agnostic crazy cousin. I don't want anything financially from them as well, heaven forbid I don't want to create more ties than the TOXIC EMOTIONAL BONDS I already worked so hard to sever.

So the story goes one of my family members asked me if I would come to visit them, via a request on facebook. At first I said yes, but then I was thinking to myself, going through my memory bank of the past five years - why I initially severed all contact with them. My stomach started to act up and I felt like I was going to vomit. Which is strange since the whole week I feel constipated, then I hear I must go to visit the family, and all of a sudden I get diarrhea and fall into a dark cloud of anxiety.

And to top it all off - this week I almost broke my ankle and a ligament was torn. Now I must wear this supporting cast they call a moonboot. And I know how my uncle and grandparents would greet me - first ask me what happened to my foot, then tell me how stupid I am for falling, and then laughing at the situation I am in. These people seriously lack any sense of compassion - maybe it is due to their psycho-sociopathic religious relations. Or just because they are limp brained pricks, as simple as that. 

Or the fact that my aunt thinks I want to seduce my uncle and want to compete with me in a childish manner. This family situation is just fucked up. I just think my aunt is intimidated by me or even jealous - something that has nothing to do with me actually wanting her stupid ass husband. More over I believe it is due to  her religious upbringing, and her strict parents, that made her hate herself so much, suffering from a complete lack of self-esteem due to religious indoctrination - that she is INTIMIDATED and THREATENED by anyone who she feels challenges her self-worth. This is also unchristian like to falsely suspect and wanting to look down on someone because YOU HAVE A PROBLEM with yourself. 

It is absolutely not my problem if my aunt chooses to live a shallow life - and feel the need to compete with a deep and free spirited soul like I am.  Someone (me) who released the very bonds that keeps her (my aunt)  captive. Yes I believe it is ENVY and not jealousy, for the latter requires STRESS that someone is going to take away what  you have. She wants however what I have - the person that she can never be, due to keeping herself mentally imprisoned by her own distorted belief structures.


I sure as fuck don't want to go there on a Saturday, to sleepover, and go to CHURCH with them on Sunday. First I look as if I just escaped war alive with my foot cast, and second I don't have time for that bullshit. These people are not deep, they are superficial and judgmental - the type of people who would rather buy their kids braces to make them feel good than actually talk to them to find out what really bothers them inside.

My aunt is 16 years my senior, yet she still lives in a childlike mentality - due to her always wanting to impress SOCIETY, and always wanting to do what is right according to WHAT SHE THINKS, people thinks, is RIGHT for her to live by.

I used to like her better, when she was unmarried, childless and free spirited and there was more room for development. She seems stuck today. And her dreams have become unattainable by herself. And she lives through her children and social status being married to a wealthy businessman.

I hope I never end up like her, to crucify my soul on society's lame standards. Sad fact is - her husband is just as shallow as fuck as she is. Who wants that, who needs this type of relationship? Only a zombie, slave to this world. They are so concerned with pleasing the world and society, that they completely lost track of themselves AND THEIR CHILDREN who are doomed to fit into the mold they parents created for them to live by.

And of course there is always my father who compares my siblings and I to our cousins, telling us how fucked up we are and how cool they are - then I simply remind him "well these assholes need to grow up some time, they are just crashes waiting to happen". Some fucks need to come back to earth, and some even die before that can happen and their soul can attain true depth. There is no satisfaction in leaving this earth a shallow piece of trash, and getting at heaven's gates EMPTY HANDED. The difference between my father's brother's children and my brother and I, is that WE tasted the ground a long time ago, we actually grew up faster, due to having to deal with REALITY as it is, and not as society portrays it. Can we say that we are more humble than they are, more humility? Definitely.

Let's take for example my brother and I grew up with a father who is emotionally explosive, yay to the scorpio trait. My father always manifested his emotions in some sick way, he never really let it get bottled up. Which is different from his family or brothers and sisters, because they would rather keep their shit in and veiled or clouded from their children. My father is thus different, yet similar to his siblings in some sick way.  Point being made is that if it was not for HIM making his children deal with his emotional suffering, we would not have grown as the people we are today, laid back and even empathetic etc. Is this a benefit of child abuse? LMFAO


My father's siblings' children on the other hand, well their parents fear their emotions more than my father ever did, and failed to express them so that people can really understand them, because it is a sin AND improper you know and then I hear my father's MOTTO: I WON'T LIVE A LIE.


Anyway I stayed at home, and let my parents go on their own together with my little sister to the FAMILY, even though my aunt prepared my bed because I said I was going, I just felt too sick to go there again, it never changes, the story is always the same - the same shallow shit plays off every time. Now I UNDERSTAND why my father always expressed his emotions so vehemently - because that family simply NEVER TALKED TO EACH OTHER, other than the casual and stupid small talk. Well fuck that shit, I don't have time for that shit, I deal with it at my work. I need some time alone too you know, where I can be REAL WITH MYSELF. And luckily I can do that on my weekends. I don't want to waste it on the same superficial shit I deal with everyday.

sometimes dreaming about fucked up shit






















You have to be funny about it and honest about it. You can't leave yourself out of that mix. You have to be honest enough to say, I'm that messed-up one in the family. ~ Louie Anderson quotes  


 

 

Sunday, 30 November 2014

CHRISTIAN NEW AGE PROPAGANDA - THE SWEET ART OF DENIAL

So I had a conversation with someone on facebook.

This guy is all about getting saved by GOD and all your sins being forgiven.

You can do whatever horrendous crime, all you have to do is ask for forgiveness from GOD and everything will be forgiven by a simple snap of the fingers.

I have a problem with this because this then means EVERYTHING BASICALLY GOES, by way of DENIAL you will always be SAVED in the christian's mind.

Where is the whole "I AM REALLY SORRY JOURNEY, OR PROVING MYSELF"...when the BIBLE is all about "good deeds won't get you into heaven type of shit".

I am like, what the hell is the use then of SALVATION if you CANNOT WORK FOR IT, if you DO NOT REALLY MEAN IT and want to prove yourself otherwise?

Maybe I am not understanding the Xtian faith correctly. But it is because of pricks like these that no change ever occurs. You just pray and you are fucking saved? How the fuck does that work? When you SHOW no true repentance?

To just fucking die and hope to go to heaven, without ever being REALLY sorry for what you have done, and trying to re-mediate it?

It is like these fucking new age pricks who believe in the aliens who will just come and wisp (take) them away, and that's that, just leave earth in the desolated and destructive process as it is, it will take care of itself type of shit.

I REALLY THINK THIS GUY IS IN FOR A SURPRISE WHEN HE GETS TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHAT IF HE ISN'T REALLY SAVED, AND NEVER WAS, AND HAVE TO WORK FOR IT WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO SLEEP IN PEACE FOREVER. FUCKING IGNORANT ASSHOLES.


they have air in their hands... nothing solid... all is an illusion in the new age world remember.

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MY KARMA RAN ALL OVER YOUR DOGMA

Wednesday, 17 September 2014

FUCKED UP OTHERKIN FIGHTS

What is really going on in the otherkin community? 

Let met tell you, they are calling each other names all the time, they call everyone fake, and everyone is suffering from a special snowflake syndrome except for the cult leaders, or those otherkin who want to take control or rather those who want the most attention out of this attention whoring deal. Hypocritical much?



When they write shit like how they are being hunted, and how they don't want to expose themselves while actually roleplaying online, I am just like what the fuck is wrong with all this?



You can easily see who wants the most attention, and who is using this otherkin thing as a big cry for help. It is those who skillfully create the picture around themselves that they are the real deal while others are just completely fucking fake, and why they are the ones to be believed in as authentic by giving such reasons as being part of some cult aka pack or coven, or that they are alphas or supremes etc. to make it sound more attractive or laudable. See here.










I don't know what to say about this other than proclaiming yourself to be the one and only magical creature deserving of praise makes you look like a total fucking fake or just plainly put a true attention hungry whore. Not just that but also makes you look like a evil fucking narcissist with no regard for anyone's spiritual well being, not even your own.

Apparently you only have superpowers if you are the only one that has it OR when you are able to convince others that you are the ONE AND ONLY, alpha and omega, OTHERKIN [what the fuck ever you like OTHERKIN persona].



They don't do NAMASTE, as repeated ad infinitum [endlessly] meaning that these fuckers do not believe that everyone has something special in them, and that everyone should be treated as equally sacred and magical. 

Then you can argue, but they want attention from others, do they then think that those who give them the attention are special in any way, or that their attention given would make the otherkin's special light shine more if more attention is aimed at them alone? No, not really. They don't appreciate the attention people give them, nor the people giving it, they are just using the energy they draw as a means to an end. It is almost psychopathic if not completely sociopathic. 

All this attention whoring online in RPG or roleplaying forums, only show their weaknesses. In fact it is clear they suffer from some type of low self-esteem, to go so far as to seek validation from others to actually be something at all, whether it be online or offline. I mean why can't they be something or someone without all these bizarre attention seeking schemes online?

I want to say these people are really craving love and understanding, but is it really what they desire if they are acting like people with no regard for other people? How can others understand you if you have no respect for them? Or how can you desire understanding, acceptance and empathy form others if you are not prepared to return the same?

SO YOU MUST BE HIGH ON BULLSHIT THEN, NO OTHER DRUG GREATER THAN SELF-DECEPTION 




What I do see in the new age community is that children are acting like selfish brats, like babies who think they are entitled to all the love and attention, and fuck the mother or the hand that provides it. It is shameful that "adults" [who should know better by now] act the same way in this terribly fucked up cult. So much for heaven dawning on earth since 2012, and unconditional love here to be awakened in all hearts since then. 




I have learned to distance myself, not to comment or to create an account on otherkin communities just to have a go at them for being total morons, or in the name of the good will or to save other people form their ignorance - in the end you are called the troll and hater because no one wants to listen to sense in a place of total insanity, where they feel safe to hang out at.


lesson: DON'T HELP THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE HELPED, LET THEM fuck themselves over, what is that saying: NOT MY CIRCUS, NOT MY MONKEYS.




BITCHES GET THEIR OWN WOUNDS AND STITCHES DONE

PS I KNOW I SAID they use this otherkin thing as a cry for help but frantically I just think some of them have no souls and just like fucking with people for the heck of it.

Wednesday, 10 September 2014

NEW AGERS FEED OFF DARKNESS, IGNORANCE AND DEATH. AND HOW DO THEY DO IT? THROUGH DENIAL!!!

FUCKING DEBUNK THIS!!!
DOOM is all around..THIS world FEEDS on it..builds it..makes BILLIONS out of it..makes movies worshipping it...starts wars glorying in it..

DOOM..from cradle to grave..DOOM...poisons in the water..genetically modified frankenfoods..all of that.ALL this is OBVIOUS to anyone who has EYES with a BRAIN attached to them...which you new age braindeads DONT seem to have.Look at history..

The ONLY thing mankind has LEARNT from the PAST...Is that we JUST DONT FUCKING LEARN FROM THE PAST!!Doom..for centuries...getting stronger...more advanced...each war has ever NEW and better inventions of wiping out MORE people with LESS effort in NASTIER ways..
WHERE is this peace and fucking LOVE fairy you guys talk about??HMMM??

WHERE the FUCK IS IT?...Up your asses somewhere?

Mankind LOVES death..THRIVES on death..teaches DEATH from the cradle to the fucking GRAVE...
NEW age my fucking RINGPEICE!!!'Take your average toddler these days..by the age of fucking THREE he is already blowing cunts away on a playstation..learning from a VERY young age that KILLING is FUN and GOOD and ENJOYABLE..a soldier in training for the NWO armies.

By the time he is a teen he has committed over 1,000,000 VIRTUAL KILLINGS...ahhhh yes..the NEW age of peace and love...WHAT a fucking sick joke you new age fucks are!!

Its because of idiots like YOU that no one STOPS it..because all you do is FUCKING DENY REALITY..watching humanity BURN TO THE FUCKING GROUND...all the while spouting your useless deadly philosophy of DENIAL.

Instead of confronting THE DOOM..you IGNORE IT...or WORSE...you say its NOT doom..just lessons to be learnt..so we DONT dare STOP it.

Its YOU cunts who ENCOURAGE ALL THIS DEATH..by TURNING A BLIND EYE TO IT...

HAVE some fucking BALLS and FACE reality....

But you wont..you will just keep on saying I am the doomed one..while the ship called himanity SINKS..and you new age fuckers LET it sink..saying"If we think happy thoughts..it wont sink"..FOOLS...CANT you SEE the TRAP you are in???

By DENYING there is any DOOM and convincing yourself through your VAIN philosophies that its all "Gonna be alright"..you are actually LETTING IT BURN TO THE GROUND.
SO DOOOOOOOMED!!!

A POST DIRECTED TO NEW AGE TROLLS, SOURCE:  http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message467638/pg1

I DON'T KNOW SHOULD WE LEARN FROM THEM, does not HELPING them in fact make us guilty of the same thing? who should give a fuck when they don't give a fuck about themselves right?

Sunday, 12 January 2014

Kindred Spirit On The Web

I feel the same as this woman, I love her blog and two of the posts really "resonated" with me in new ager slang terms if you know what i mean, and i bet there are many others who feel the same way we do about Doreen virtue's teachings:


The rabbit hole goes quite deep regarding all her false teachings and advice! I have many more entries to write and more truths to reveal.  I waded in the waters of “Angel Therapy” for at least 4 years, clinging for dear life to the lies and manipulation aimed only to get this lady even richer.  I attended “Angels Circles” in Los Angeles (weekly gatherings of her followers) and dreamed of attending her “Angel Therapy Practitioner” training. Yes, I was in that deep! But fresh air and real truth never felt better.

Read more: http://madambutterflywings.wordpress.com/2010/08/

This blog was created with the intention of shedding light upon the new age frauds who kept me shackled and totally misinformed. I have been on a search for the divine, the truth of the universe, the creator, connection with god, and greater spiritual truth. I am currently  at a place in my life where I wish to speak out about the traps and the disinformation that is being spread…just to hold people like me back from realizing real spiritual truths! I have spent many month outraged about the many spiritual gurus, movements  and organized religions that have only given people parts of the truth…. and thrown in a cocktail of lies and BS that just keep people “feeling good.” It’s time to get off the new age spiritual heroin and wake up!!

Read more:  http://madambutterflywings.wordpress.com/2010/07/

note:

I intend to share some of the other resources on the web that give information regarding Doreen Virtue PhD. That way, you don’t only have to take my word for it!

Wednesday, 14 September 2011

The Atheists' Irritation

(I wrote this story in an online group of atheists, and as a result got some interesting responses)

The Irritation
posted 31st July 2011

Have you ever wondered why the topic of God always comes up, from everywhere and corner of the world, just to bug atheists?

Atheists can always try to renounce God in entirety, or to forget about all God represents, but it seems that "God" is something that simply won't leave non-believers alone.

Atheists should really ask themselves why "God" keeps bugging them, no matter how far they try to run away from "it".

Odd but not strange.

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One atheist said: "I think, therefore I am", but who gave you the ability to think?

The Source will never leave someone or something alone which is part of it.

The lesson of enlightenment: we are all part of the Life giving energy, the Creative Life Force...if you weren't created from it, you would have no consciousness whatsoever.


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I don't wish to change atheists but I wish to alter their perspective...from not seeing to seeing.

You may say that you are not part of God, but you already are, even if you don't see it, that is the irony of complete ignorance.

Well happy non-believing, for not believing equals not seeing.

Comments received:

Posted by atheist#1 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 9:28AM
It's hard to see what isn't there though.

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 9:36AM
You see what isn't there, because you don't want to see what is there.

PS: could you help me on this one please? Why is it that atheists say that they have forgotten all about God and don't want anything to do with Him, yet keep on talking about Him? Doesn't that mean that they are (still) infatuated with Him, even though they have severed their relationship with Him? Obviously they are love sick, and not over Him yet...because the topic "God" is all they seem to talk about.

Posted by SpiritBreeze on Jul 31st, 2011 at 9:43AM
God made us in his own image.

The non-believers when they look into the mirror.... they ask... where are you, who are you?

Some creators, kicked us out of paradise because they feared we would become as smart as them?
I'm not an atheist, I'm an animist and I believe everything has a life force of its own...but why do you care if a person believes in god or not? Because insecurity loves company.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:05AM
Insecurity loves company - well said, they care because they want "fame" playing "the messiah of non-believers"...saving people from God...hahaha so fuuukkked up!!! Hahaha

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:03AM
@SpiritBreeze That is an excellent point...so as they may say "God was created in the image of man", yet in reality "their non-belief" was created in the image of man...because "man won't see what isn't there" and how does he do it? Create other means of "man-made avoidance"...so whatever they say "does not exist" was created in the image of man, for surely if whatever they say does not exist they wouldn't have existed either, so they are saying that "they do not exist"...for God created them in His image, now if God's image isn't there, then the image of them is not there either...that is why atheists have such a corrupt view of self...they only see the outer, but what about within...they are thus empty shells, "on the surface beings" only, because they say there is nothing within them, besides them.

In reality it means that everyone who cannot see past himself (or his own ego) are all without God, that would make the entire world atheists, because they can't see past themselves (or ego) to something greater...

Wow, the whole world is atheists! No that can't be??!!! Yes unfortunately that is True - because all the unenlightened species are part of the world, and can't see past the world to God.

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Atheists are dumb, they keep on fighting against God, why do they keep on fighting against God, making themselves sick? Do they like to be so sick, surely they have not made peace with their findings that God does not exist, and that is why they keep on fighting in such a way, whether to prove that God does not exist or to make more non-believers, yet I had no idea that atheism required discipleship (to go about to make more non-believers - - so "messiah like" if you ask me)...

Why do they else want to keep on proving that "God does not exist", if He doesn't exist then why can't they just leave it at that? Really, to make followers of such perverted beliefs is to really create your own belief system, yet they may say it is no belief system, but why seek to make followers then?

That is really idiotic to me, playing the "messiah of non-believers"...saving people from God! ROFL...wtf? So funny!!!!

Reply by Atheist#1 Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:34AM
It's hard to fight against something that isn't there.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:39AM
It is not hard to see that you are not seeing that you are indeed fighting against something you believe isn't there. LMAO

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:07AM
Ya know ... if there was SOMETHING there to be seen, I think I would actually see it. But when believers put up all these conditions and excuses:

● Oh, you have to have FAITH to see
● Doubt destroys faith
● You have to see god with your heart,

et cetera, et cetera, all I hear are a lot of rationalizations and very little more than that.

Our senses as they are allow us to perceive a great deal of what this world is. With instrumentation borne of our intelligence, we've unlocked amazing detail, from subatomic particles to the vastness of a universe littered with billions of galaxies containing uncounted stars. Yet amidst all of that, there has been no observation of any phenomenon which could have no other explanation than that of an all-powerful, omnipresent and omniscient deity.

The believers would have us trust subjective experience, which is frequently non-repeatable, unreliable, never mind impossible to confirm or share from one person to another and further, they would have us bet our lives on this undetectable something. Sorry, but I prefer to live based on what I can reliably KNOW and not on belief without corroboration.

Oh, and one last matter: it isn't god that won't leave us alone, but those who want to insist without proof that there is such a being out there and that we MUST believe in it. Until you have something demonstrable to point to and gain agreement on, not just between you and me but to ANYONE ... sorry, no, I'm not having any.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:22AM
I know machines (things without souls, robots of the world) cannot be reasoned with...so delete this conversation from your Hard drive, because this is beyond man-made calculation...you also said you have no Heart (soul) because you cannot see it, so you are an empty shell, machines cannot love nor feel, what an empty existence you must lead!...you said you were put together by man alone, so you are...empty the life without magic!!! Tragic is the lack of magic indeed!

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:24AM
Feelings cannot be seen only felt...shit you must be one callous and superficial man, no woman would want a shallow man.

Reply by Atheist#2 Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:34AM
[chuckle!] A "shallow man," eh? You should tell my fiancee that, though she'd likely laugh, as do I. (actually, I DID just tell her and she chuckled!) I love and laugh and help because it's in me to do so, not because I am directed by some unseen deity. I don't need your god to do any of that any more than I need it to be moral. You're welcome to your own perception of things ... but don't expect me to adopt your crutch. I don't need it.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:39AM
@Atheist#2 You said you have no soul, so that means you are one empty man, so if your girlfriend is an atheist too and she believes you are not shallow, yet still have no soul, then you both are idiots...and if you believe you can love yet lack a soul, then I seriously question the sanity of you both.

Reply by Atheist#1 Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:36AM
But to have one's feelings override one's rationalization...I'm sorry, but that's inconsistent. "I know THIS is this because it's how I feel!" never has nor never will hold water with me, and I'm not alone in that opinion.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:39AM
@Atheist#1 You first have to feel to understand...you first have to experience through the heart to understand through the mind.

Reply by Atheist#2 Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:46AM
Nope, no soul at all ... which doesn't stop me from loving my soon-to-be wife or my daughter or my cat. We just refuse to operate based on the model YOU insist on, a model which, I must add, you cannot objectively justify.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:39AM
@Atheist#2 You already have my "crutch" because without it, you would have been non-existent and without the "love" you have for your fiance, yet I can understand if you do not love her and that it is only some animal attraction that won't last long...until the itch for the one female subsides to go the the next...I understand that you can be pure animal without feelings, and only shallow instinct...a man of physical only...so you feel nothing for her heart, that would make you a bastard, and if she feels the same for being an atheist having no regard for your heart whatsoever that would make her a bitch and cheap slut!

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:10AM
To seek to make followers of atheism, is to stroke ones ego...with playing some sort of "saviour" there comes power, and that is precisely what these non-believers seek to do - to gain power over people's minds, really there is no other reason...to make them not believe is to make them believe in what you want them to believe - and that is manipulation, because they are telling people who believe in God to believe in man instead...so wtf? Do you seek to control minds? Yes! And with mind-control comes...POWER...oh wow atheists are really greedy creatures...loving the ways of the world...

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:20AM
Do I seek to control minds? GOOD GRIEF, AGNES! I seek to control MYSELF, not to be beholden to some arcane 2,000 year old book of myths and fairy tales which was not even documented during the time when it putatively happened, has no independent corroboration, and frankly has been clearly demonstrated to be sufficiently self-contradicting as to have no credibility to me or to anyone else who chooses to look at it with a critical eye.

And if I choose to associate with others who also enjoy their own self-possession, that is my choice, as surely as you might wish to associate with believers.

Thing is, too, this is hardly an ego trip. If anything, it is the antithesis of one ... because from where we stand, we have ONE SHOT and that's IT. WE are RESPONSIBLE ... for our successes and failures both. There is no "savior" to fall back on. We are the authors of our own actions and we are held to account by the society we are a part of if its sensibilities are violated.

Rather a humbling thought from where I sit.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:26AM
Denial is so sweet, but is getting so old...stop writing your sad stories and comments about "God's nonexistence" if you do not want to make "non-believers" then, okay! Go and join other groups, go and enjoy the web (internet), the rest of what this site or the world has to offer...the fact that you keep on focusing on atheism and not life, really shows that you are out to convince other people of God's non-existence...you are a fool to deny this, yet fools cannot see that they are blind! If you don't wish to "convert" or "convince me" of God's non-existence then why are you still on this post you idiot!

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:26AM
@Atheist#2

It is not the believers that won't leave you alone, it is God working through them...something you can't see but only choose to feel!

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:29AM
Sorry, don't see no god. Just see a bunch of people referring to something they can't quantify. It's right up there with selling a pig in a poke ... and sorry, but I'm not buying it for an instant.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:39AM
I know, so why are you still writing on my post, I get it, so move along now! Thank you very much!

Posted by Atheist#3 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:33AM
It only truly follows people around if they are not really atheists, a lot of people will say they are atheist because they don't want to be a part of a religion, but they do believe in god. I personally do not believe in GOD, the only time I hear about it is when religious believers are discussing him/her/it, whatever. It doesn't make me give a fuck in anyway though. You say all that in an atheist group and then say you are not trying to turn people, you clearly are in a way or you would not have said it here, you are hoping some people will think oh dam there is a god. I do not believe, have never believed. And I happy that way. I do not need the thought of some 'thing' to guide me through life or for happiness or whatever, I am happy in life and I do not believe. So.. I am done here!

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:53AM
I feel sorry for you, sure as hell I don't want such a cheap life like you...for there is no real bliss without God, only illusion thereof...I am happy for you if you don't need conversion, makes my road so much easier to travel...those that won't want to listen, leave them be in their misery!

Posted by Scorpio on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:33AM
Atheists aren't dumb. I think there is more evidence against the existence of god, personally...people who seek to convince order people that god is real and relevant to them are only trying to comfort themselves. Besides, no one knows the truth-it's all speculation. We can say with certainty that energies and synchronicities are real, or that we have mystical experiences but when it comes down to it even the fucking pope and Dali lama are just as in the dark.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:53AM
I can understand the pope is in the dark, but about the dali lama, I don't know, the East is by far more spiritual rich than the west...I am not here to comfort myself though...I am just a messenger...sometimes the Spirit moves me to write...there is a reason for everything...I cannot however comfort myself if I know God exists...I do not believe He exists, I just know!!! Maybe I can give comfort to others who are struggling with their faith in this regard!

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:40AM
Grazie,scorpio. The fact is that, were a god revealed and verified, I doubt my behavior would change that much. I mean, it's been without objective evidence for more years than I could care to count, and with that and 60 years of living behind me, a sudden revelation is supposed to change my mind? Johnny-come-lately types do not impress me, and if some deity wanted me to believe, he/she/it could start the conversation.

Otherwise, I am quite content to do without, thank u very much.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:53AM
That's right, God won't reveal Himself to someone who doesn't want to search for Him...we all know you gave up searching, so please don't hinder those who are searching with your non-believer's perversions, thank you!

Posted by Atheist#1 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:49AM
Hmmm, didn't you state that "if you fake it you'll make it" doesn't hold water, in a story of yours?

So, we do not believe...so how do we? It's denying ourselves; if you believe in a deity or greater being, is it not without reason that it would've created people incapable of belief or faith in its very own existence?

So hence, some cannot believe, but here you are, trying anyways...to apparently make us fake it...?

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:53AM
Good question, with atheists there is no "make it until you fake it", because non-believing won't ever kill God. He created you with free will to test your faith...you obviously made your choice.

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 10:57AM
Atheist#1, are you smelling Pascal's Wager the way I am. Eh ... I hear it so much lately, I suppose I anticipate it.

Tell me something, Akasha... do you really think faking belief would fool an omniscient god? Personally, I doubt it'd be much of a god if such a ruse would work ... and I would STILL need something more than a pig in a poke to convince me that the effort would be worth my time.

Tell me, did I insult you in any way that you felt the need to call me a bastard and my soon to be wife a bitch?

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:12AM
No it won't fool God, but you are trying to make a fool out of God, which makes you the fool, not God.

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:13AM
As with regards to pascal he said: "the Heart as reasons which the mind does not know!", thus no feeling no Heart, and thus the total lack of regard for another's feelings...that is why I can't understand that you atheists claim to be able to "love" without soul (heart)...hahaha really so sad, and ironic, the scientists can't prove Love, so they then simply don't know it...thus you can't know Love without soul...so if you have no soul, you are incapable to love, as simple as that!

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So I delete one of the idiot's comments and he keeps reposting it, and I delete it again giving him this comment as reply:

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:26AM
@Atheist#2 Please stop commenting, your persistence only shows that you are indeed an idiot for not seeing that you are constantly trying to "prove to me or anyone else" that God doesn't exist, I get it, so please move on now! For you won't convince me or convert me! Thank you for your understanding!

Reply by Atheist#2 Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:30AM
I don't need to prove a darn thing ... it's YOU who has to demonstrate your deity to ME ... and in that regard, I think you have your work cut out for you. Rotsa Ruck!

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:37AM
You need me to demonstrate to you something you believe don't exist, which means that you are trying to prove me wrong...you say atheists are so intelligent, but your response seriously makes me doubt that!

Reply by Akasha Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:37AM
If you don't need to prove a damn thing, then why the need to silence me? Really, grow up!

Posted by Atheist#2 on Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:28AM
Oh, dear, so now we're deleting comments we don't like, eh? ... I hope whatever jollies you are getting from this are worth it, because my suspicion is that this post isn't going to last long (already flagged) ... and if you want to maintain this brand of behavior, your profile may be vanishing as well(banned from the site). Not sayin' it WILL ... but the likelihood strikes me as being high.

Now if you will excuse me, I have a shower to share and a back to scrub!

Posted by Akasha on Jul 31st, 2011 at 11:37AM
@Atheist#2 You can't handle the Truth, that is why you flagged this post! Sorry to say, but flagging this post and my profile for this reason really makes you a coward! Because the Truth really gets to you as I clearly do see! Can't handle it and need to get rid of it, wow, really well you won't ever get rid of the Truth...your shower won't wash your soul, Oh I forgot you said you have no soul, so no waters of Spirit then, such a shame and disgrace to God your arrogance!!!

I see the post is already taken down, shame on You for being such a coward! Indeed this makes you a shallow man!!!